Transcript by Akazukin AF# 1498 Posted 18 June 2009 - 09:47 AM
Tavia attended a radio interview with Cha Siu Yan, Steven was mentioned in some part. I (sic Akazukin) only translated the part mentioned about Steven, not really anything new, but as long as relevant to Steven...
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Cha Siu Yan = C
Tavia = T
[C and T talked about BTROC]
[C and T briefly talked about the pressure of SITS and talked about Tavia's first collaboration with Raymond Wong. Tavia said that Raymond Wong is very quiet but when he talked, he would often talked about his wife. And this caused her to have no imagination as his onscreen partner.]
C: Then, do you have any imagination facing Steven Ma?
T: This one, I have. This one, I have. This one, the imagination is older brother.
C and T: Hahahaha...
C: Yes, Steven Ma is really like a big brother.
T: Yes. But actually...
C: Everyone...
T: Actually it's a good thing, I feel. Because I feel that besides needing to have a collaboration feel with your partner, if you have the family feeling offscreen like a brother or good friend, it will help us to get into the character in the series more. If I treat you as nothing but a colleague, I will feel very alien, and the acting won't be real.
C: Steven Ma, in the series, is your big enemy.
T: Yes.
C: And Raymond Wong is your first lover.
T: Actually, to be accurate, my first lover is Steven Ma.
C: Yes, but you guys didn't continue, and then, no more?
T: Because actually we like each other, but due to the relationship and something he did cause me to develop the feelings of hatred against him. I don't like him. And also because I enter the Wu family, I develop "ching yi" with the second young master. Actually, that kind of love is not present. The one present is the "yi" (chivalry, loyalty, friendship).
C: Outside the series, between Raymond Wong and Steven Ma, which one would you pick as a husband?
T: Can I have both of them... added together?
C: Waaaa... how greedy are you! You really become Sing Suet?
T: No.
C: Sing Suet said women can have concubine, men, no, men can have concubines, women can't marry two husbands?
T: Sister Siu Yan, you are a modern career woman. Now...
C: I'm not.
T: But I feel, how come men can have mistresses outside, have you thought that women can also have ones?
C: No. You look at people like ..., bringing disaster to oneself. Don't be involved with such a thing.
T: No. I feel that we can have such a thinking, but to do it is another thing. But we can have such a thinking. But of course, I won't do it. I'm also a traditional woman, I feel I am. But in real life, if you ask me to choose, I will...
C: You have said it out. Both also....
T: I want Raymond Wong's character of always mentioning me.
C: Hoh... so that he would mention you in front of other people non-stop. My wife... My wife... My wife...
T: Yes.
C and T: Hahahaha....
T: Steven's generosity* (包容) and caringness.
C: Ha.
T: He really knows how to take care of me.
C: But he is very long-winded.
T: Long-winded is okay. What's important is he is reasonable. I'm most afraid of husbands who are not reasonable. Right? If I reason and you don't listen. If you don't mind to sit down and talk about reasonings with me, we can talk.
C: Did Steven Ma talk about reasonings with you in the filming of this series, Tavia Yeung?
T: Actually yes. But the so-called reasonings are giving opinions, not really reasonings. Because I wouldn't really do anything wrong, but he would give me pointers, because after all, he is my senior. He has more experiences in acting than me. I feel that juniors listening to seniors is very important.
C: But you already got Best Supporting Actress. What else can he give you as pointers?
T: What pointers? Very important, after receiving award, cannot be too proud.
C: He will remind you such a thing?
T: He won't remind me such thing, but I feel when communicating, I don't give people the impression of such thing. He didn't remind me such things, but possibly like when we filmed a lot and filmed one series after another, it's hard to get out of the previous character. When filming with him, maybe some character and personality of the previous one has to be shed off to get into the current character. Sometimes I sway from the character, he would remind me for this character I should be like this, I shouldn't be like this. Sometimes, I myself would miss it.
C: You have collaborated with Steven Ma for 3 series.
T: Yes, yes.
C: The currently airing is Sweetness in the Salt. The one not yet aired is Stars of Love. (eta 2013 Cupid stupid) The one which had been aired before is Land of Wealth. Three series... you weren't able to get out of the character? You treat Steven Ma as the Steven Ma from Land of Wealth?
T: No. I'm talking about for example, I have just finished BTROC, and starting a new series....
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(Credit of interview: Tavia's thread; the radio interview can be found here)
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Akazukin note: I think she was talking about during the time of filming SITS, she was also required to film MR. Luckily, Steven is there to remind her. I would imagine filming two different series at the same time would be difficult.
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Tamaya: I guess to some people Steven may come across as long-winded, (and he is indeed that, sometimes) Steven himself did mention that he knew he's being too philosophically long winded when he glimpsed the reporters' glazed eyes.
*But I took Tavia's praise of Steven's 包容 (bao yung) as him being tolerant or forgiving or charitable or magnanimous to others. Of course, the word 'generosity' encompasses all these descriptions. I'm just being anal.
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Akazukin: (re: bao yung) I totally agree. It's hard to translate such chinese words with one word. He is all that you described/translated from Tavia's words.
I don't really regard Steven as long-winded, maybe because I myself love to talk about philosophy. At least, like Tavia said, he is reasonable. I find people who spent hours and hours complaining about the same thing and repeat it again the next day and the next next day as long-winded, not the type that spent hours talking about philosophy. Because once you get to philosophy, really there is no end to it. But I take Cha Siu Yan comment about Steven as long-winded as a sign of friendship, that she feels close enough to tease him that way.
Tuesday, September 29, 2009
2009 Fala's radio Interview: Steven mention
AF#1484 Posted 12 June 2009 - 10:06 PM
In a recent interview with Cha Xiu Yan, Fala talked about her role as Laughing Sor and on how she defeated her rivals to finally clinch the much coveted role. Ms. Cha snuck in the rumor that she (Fala) knows how to brush up to the top brass, and getting the covet role only serves to heighten it, so how can she dispel this rumor?
Fala (embarrassed) admitted that she does not communicate very well with her colleagues therefore may have given them a wrong impression of herself. She does not sugar coat her words and seldom praise people, but will bluntly and directly say what is in her mind. But she is trying to improve in this area which she admits is lacking. She then brought up Steven in her conversation.
"Because we are right now shooting Pu Songling, in the beginning Steven and I were brothers. I was pretending to be a male then. But later I became a girl and fell in love with him. We shared lots of scenes together. After a period of shooting and he has gotten to know me better, he msn me, he said: "Ah Mui (he calls me Ah Mui, younger sister) Ah Mui ah, actually Ah Goh admires how very diligent you are in your work, but sometimes when you communicate with other people, you may want to pay attention to the way you talk, make it easier for the other people to accept."
full interview: tudou link FC with Eileen Cha @ 8:57
Steven mention: same interview Steven's portion only
In a recent interview with Cha Xiu Yan, Fala talked about her role as Laughing Sor and on how she defeated her rivals to finally clinch the much coveted role. Ms. Cha snuck in the rumor that she (Fala) knows how to brush up to the top brass, and getting the covet role only serves to heighten it, so how can she dispel this rumor?
Fala (embarrassed) admitted that she does not communicate very well with her colleagues therefore may have given them a wrong impression of herself. She does not sugar coat her words and seldom praise people, but will bluntly and directly say what is in her mind. But she is trying to improve in this area which she admits is lacking. She then brought up Steven in her conversation.
"Because we are right now shooting Pu Songling, in the beginning Steven and I were brothers. I was pretending to be a male then. But later I became a girl and fell in love with him. We shared lots of scenes together. After a period of shooting and he has gotten to know me better, he msn me, he said: "Ah Mui (he calls me Ah Mui, younger sister) Ah Mui ah, actually Ah Goh admires how very diligent you are in your work, but sometimes when you communicate with other people, you may want to pay attention to the way you talk, make it easier for the other people to accept."
full interview: tudou link FC with Eileen Cha @ 8:57
Steven mention: same interview Steven's portion only
Sunday, September 27, 2009
Translation of fans' essays 2007
Reposted from AF post#1218 Posted 20 March 2009 - 09:32 PM
Getting to know Steven through his fans continues:
From: steven's warm house 温馨马仔小屋's archive.
07-02-04 13:56 by: 桔子.我是猫
Date:2007.02.03
Place: Taiwan – Sichuan, China
Interviewee: FanA (阿尔萨兰)Webmistress of a now defunct Steven’s Taiwan fansite (2001-?). Fan since 1999 Quote: Actually really wish when he first started out, I was there to support him, to like him. 其实很希望 他出道时 就能支持他喜欢他
Interviewer: (桔子) webmistress of Steven’s Warm House.
An Excerpt of their online impromptu interview:
桔子: You said if it wasn’t for that face-to-face meeting, you would have been just a regular fan. Does that mean you don’t see yourself as a regular fan?
FanA: Well, I’ve like him for such a long time, as for that ardent enthusiam, that’s gone. I now look upon him more like a relative, like a friend ba
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桔子. En, I remember reading an article on another celebrity. Inside was a remark that said, what Scorpio celebrities attract is not the fanatic fans, rather, they are admirers. I appreciate this comment because I think the usage of admirers is very appropriate.
fanA: Very true! He has the kind of charisma that makes one fall in love with him (tn: or another meaning- charisma that inspires admiration) 倾心的魅力. Which is why at the time when I liked him a lot, I never thought of myself as a fanatic fan. My feelings towards him were mild/calm sincerity. I guess many people were that way too.
桔子: Mild? Don’t think so. haha! I believe it’s more a blending of rationality and passion. Passionate yet tempered.
FanA: Maybe
桔子: Because that’s the impression you gave me. Often times, when I was being impulsive you would even restrain me.
FanA: I’ve a more reserved personality.
桔子: but you’ve been crazy before too
FanA: When I was crazy, I would get jealous too, and also get mad.
桔子: Besides being crazy during that 探班 time (tn:Steven-fans meeting), what other occasion were you craziest? And you mentioned jealous?
FanA: craziest? I don’t recall ever being that. Because there weren’t any opportunities for me to act that way. As for jealousy - only over minor stuff. Every fan, especially those whose feelings are deeply engaged, there’s none that will not be jealous over some petty incidences.
桔子: such as the Taiwanese gf?
FanA: Not only that, even those actresses in the photos kissing mouth to mouth with him; I’ll be jealous.
桔子: Hahahaa! Well, as to that….
FanA: After all his past, we can’t participate in it anymore
桔子: Does saying this give you a twinge of sadness?
FanA: En! Actually really wish when he first started out, I was there to support him, to like him.
桔子: En! True! Sometimes I feel that way too. Even though I could get to know his past from other people, and even felt emotional at hearing it, but still there’s this blank in my memory of him. I’ve this slightly dissatisfied feeling. Bu gan xing!
FanA: True, which is why I so diligently collect old news, magazines on him, hoping to fill in this blank in my memory.
桔子: That's why it is better to appreciate the present now because we have our own memories
FanA: en!
桔子: Conversely, these memories to the new fans will be stuff they will regret not having. Haha!
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桔子: Last question, having like Xiao Ma all these years, what is your deepest feeling on it?
FanA: That’s tough to answer, like what?
桔子: like use a phrase to describe your feelings for supporting him all these years, just whatever.
FanA: Ok then, Mazai, if you still don’t find a girlfriend to marry, then I might not be able to get myself married off.
桔子: hohoho! Will this give him pressure? Hahaha!
FanA: Hahaha! Because of him, I have squandered (?) 耽误 many of my youthful years ya. But if he doesn’t get marry, I think I will find it hard to give up ba!
桔子: The pressure just got bigger
FanA: Aren't you the same too?
桔子: lets change the subject hehe!
FanA: I purposely call you out haha
桔子: Anything else you wish to add to?
FanA: Mazai, take care of your health, of yourself, we’ll always support you!
edited: expand translation of dialogue
Edited by tamaya, 21 March 2009 - 01:23 AM.
Getting to know Steven through his fans continues:
From: steven's warm house 温馨马仔小屋's archive.
07-02-04 13:56 by: 桔子.我是猫
Date:2007.02.03
Place: Taiwan – Sichuan, China
Interviewee: FanA (阿尔萨兰)Webmistress of a now defunct Steven’s Taiwan fansite (2001-?). Fan since 1999 Quote: Actually really wish when he first started out, I was there to support him, to like him. 其实很希望 他出道时 就能支持他喜欢他
Interviewer: (桔子) webmistress of Steven’s Warm House.
An Excerpt of their online impromptu interview:
桔子: You said if it wasn’t for that face-to-face meeting, you would have been just a regular fan. Does that mean you don’t see yourself as a regular fan?
FanA: Well, I’ve like him for such a long time, as for that ardent enthusiam, that’s gone. I now look upon him more like a relative, like a friend ba
..........................
桔子. En, I remember reading an article on another celebrity. Inside was a remark that said, what Scorpio celebrities attract is not the fanatic fans, rather, they are admirers. I appreciate this comment because I think the usage of admirers is very appropriate.
fanA: Very true! He has the kind of charisma that makes one fall in love with him (tn: or another meaning- charisma that inspires admiration) 倾心的魅力. Which is why at the time when I liked him a lot, I never thought of myself as a fanatic fan. My feelings towards him were mild/calm sincerity. I guess many people were that way too.
桔子: Mild? Don’t think so. haha! I believe it’s more a blending of rationality and passion. Passionate yet tempered.
FanA: Maybe
桔子: Because that’s the impression you gave me. Often times, when I was being impulsive you would even restrain me.
FanA: I’ve a more reserved personality.
桔子: but you’ve been crazy before too
FanA: When I was crazy, I would get jealous too, and also get mad.
桔子: Besides being crazy during that 探班 time (tn:Steven-fans meeting), what other occasion were you craziest? And you mentioned jealous?
FanA: craziest? I don’t recall ever being that. Because there weren’t any opportunities for me to act that way. As for jealousy - only over minor stuff. Every fan, especially those whose feelings are deeply engaged, there’s none that will not be jealous over some petty incidences.
桔子: such as the Taiwanese gf?
FanA: Not only that, even those actresses in the photos kissing mouth to mouth with him; I’ll be jealous.
桔子: Hahahaa! Well, as to that….
FanA: After all his past, we can’t participate in it anymore
桔子: Does saying this give you a twinge of sadness?
FanA: En! Actually really wish when he first started out, I was there to support him, to like him.
桔子: En! True! Sometimes I feel that way too. Even though I could get to know his past from other people, and even felt emotional at hearing it, but still there’s this blank in my memory of him. I’ve this slightly dissatisfied feeling. Bu gan xing!
FanA: True, which is why I so diligently collect old news, magazines on him, hoping to fill in this blank in my memory.
桔子: That's why it is better to appreciate the present now because we have our own memories
FanA: en!
桔子: Conversely, these memories to the new fans will be stuff they will regret not having. Haha!
................
桔子: Last question, having like Xiao Ma all these years, what is your deepest feeling on it?
FanA: That’s tough to answer, like what?
桔子: like use a phrase to describe your feelings for supporting him all these years, just whatever.
FanA: Ok then, Mazai, if you still don’t find a girlfriend to marry, then I might not be able to get myself married off.
桔子: hohoho! Will this give him pressure? Hahaha!
FanA: Hahaha! Because of him, I have squandered (?) 耽误 many of my youthful years ya. But if he doesn’t get marry, I think I will find it hard to give up ba!
桔子: The pressure just got bigger
FanA: Aren't you the same too?
桔子: lets change the subject hehe!
FanA: I purposely call you out haha
桔子: Anything else you wish to add to?
FanA: Mazai, take care of your health, of yourself, we’ll always support you!
edited: expand translation of dialogue
Edited by tamaya, 21 March 2009 - 01:23 AM.
Friday, September 25, 2009
Nip Ji Yuen as the red rose
AF link lots more discussions
Steven as red rose
Akazukin: And once again awed by Steven's charming demeanour there, how could Sing Suet not fall in love with him?
Tamaya: Reminds me of a Steven fan's Sits article (SM Warm House) whereby she uses blood red rose and white rose to allegorize JY and Hin, respectively.
Inspired by her writing, I came up with my own version.
Jiyuen is a wild, blood red rose. Its blossom, glorious in its unbridled beauty; its fragrance, alluring and enticing. The rose is an entrapment to unsuspecting admirers for its beauty conceals an insidious thorny side. Secured in its superiority, the red rose stands tall and haughty, its beauty for all to see. Over endowed, it becomes self-absorbed, self-centered, and self-willed. Suet, never one for flowers, was inexplicably drawn to such sublimity; its exotic beauty awakens in her a full blown passion. She seeks to posses the red rose, and in her naivety, pricks her fingers on its thorns drawing instant blood, and inflicting immeasurable and irrevocable hurt. In return, the red rose is bruised and transformed by her touch. Once bitten twice shy, Suet is now forever changed; her innocence destroyed, her family destroyed, her past destroyed, her life as she knew it, all destroyed. A different kind of passion now burns deep within her heart, where love used to reside, hatred now reigns supreme. However, as time passes, the passion scale of hatred and love mixture slowly but inevitably once again tips towards love. For indeed, the ardent of the red rose cannot be denied.
Hin is a white rose inside a vase. Its beauty, pure and understated. Its fragrance, mild and pleasing. It is tranquil and serene as it stays prop up inside its vase, content to just light up its surrounding with pure beauty and to impart its mild aroma to its appreciators.
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The response to the rose allegory from another Steven fan:
To say JY is a blood red rose, might as well say
he is a warm and gentle poison
once taken, the pain is immeasurable
and the poison, irremovable.
and as for Er Shao as a white rose, might as well say
he is like the moonbeam shining on one's bed
cool and clear, its ray of light bringing warmth
to the darkness surrounding oneself.
who could bear to let go of the moonbeam
that brings warmth to oneself?
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Akazukin: I would rather Suet travelling on her own in spring season and then she stopped when she saw a field of chrysanthemums, before a firefly flew to her and she followed it shortly before she saw Ji Yuen who has been petrified looking at her. And all their reactions remain the same. At least the scene won't throw me off from its unrealisticness.
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Tamaya: I prefer your field of mums to snowland for ending. But in my neck of the woods, fireflies only appear during summer time and travel in swarms rather than solitarily. And they are most visible at night because of their glow. But of course, these are the American fireflies, don’t know about China’s own particular type.
How about this: Dusk. On the way to no-where or half-where or
some-where, Suet happens upon a field of wild, yellow daisies lighted up
by a swarm of hovering, sparkling fireflies. One detaches itself and
flies towards her, stops and dances before her eyes. It then flits away,
purposefully. Suet follows, certain it is Hin’s spirit leading her to a
warm shelter for the night. Even as she approaches the safe haven of a
cave, a familiar aroma wafts towards her, instantly evoking warm
memories of the past: spuds roasting over open fire, hmm yum yum!
Stomach rumbling, she hurries expectantly and nervously into the cave,
following the light emanating from inside. Voila! Surprise! Surprise!
two pairs of eyes widening with surprise, with hope, and with love; eyes
met, locked and tear-up. Time stands still. Yuen opens wide his arms
and Suet stumbles dazedly into them. Embraced. Then they partake the
roasted spuds that JY has so thoughtfully roasted for two. The end!
Akazukin
The reason why I mentioned spring rather than summer is because it left a bit of surreal feeling while it is not too far-fetched and impossible like fireflies in winter/snow. It could be the end of spring and towards the beginning of summer. Dusk sounds reasonable, although I would prefer to have just one firefly instead of many. So that too many fireflies won't take the attention off the flowers (LOL, I'm selfish). And OMG, how much I love them to hug! I remembered saying that what's missing in the ending was a hug when I first finished the ending. I think a hug would give a complete closure to the series. But I get that TVB wants an open ending, so that Hin's fanatics won't be too pissed off or those that oppose the idea of marrying someone who 'killed' your parents won't be too pissed off too. I guess that's why they left off the hug. May I know why Yuen was roasting for two though?
Akazukin:
Wow, comparing roses to males is quite new and original to me. However, the description seems fitting. I have always preferred red rose to white rose, although I do like both (applies to both the flowers and to the characters). I'm reminded that Yuen's thorn didn't only prick Suet but also Ting Yin's. The other day rewatching SITS, I was once again impressed by Steven, and this time I would want to talk about the scene where he first met Minister Yiu. Yuen and his godfather were just passing shadows until Minister Yiu called To, but somehow, you do feel these two passing shadows are different from the rest. There is something with the way Steven walked and his posture that gives off the vibes that he is not just normal average citizen. I feel that all over SITS, he did give off this vibe that he is from a military background and I applaud him for that. Such little thing, such little scene, but it makes difference.
After reading someone said that Steven was supposed to play the role of Hin, I start wondering whether I would have preffered Yuen or Hin if Steven acted as Hin instead. And after imagining how Steven would act as Hin, I think I would still go for Stevia. I realised that the large part of the reason why I love Yuen-Suet so much is because of their chemistry, and when it comes to chemistry, it takes two keys to make noise. Even if Yuen was acted by someone of awesome acting skill like Wayne, and he does a great job in the role. He might not have the same chemistry level with Tavia. As the case with Raymond Wong. Raymond did a great job as Hin, but his chemistry with Tavia just can't beat that of Stevia, where they can communicate just through eye contacts, or the feeling that they are connected even when they were just walking together side by side.
Maybe I would have loved Hin even more if Steven took the role (not saying RayW didn't do a good job, he did a great job, just that I think I would prefer Steven), but if I'm to be asked whether I prefer Steven as Yuen or Hin. I prefer him as Yuen. I just love the masculinity of Yuen, someone who is usually cool (even with his friends, let alone strangers), can be so passionate when falling in love is just full score attraction. I like the fact that Yuen is a righteous and good person and overall nice, but he is not downright useless nice, like how he didn't bother to let way for Ting Yin when she tried to embarrass him. But if Steven took the role of Hin, I would imagine he would add more masculine blood to the character, while Raymond Wong's Hin is more gentle overall.
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Tamaya: His original words in the spoiler. It could be interpreted either way. That he accepted to act in Sits as JY, or that he chose JY over Hin as his choice of character to act. Read in context with his whole entry, I think it was probably the latter. I recall a news report saying how Hin character was tailor made to salvage a misbehaving tvb artiste's reputation and jump start his career - something like that. But I guess the character was further polished after Steven had rejected that role. As an artiste, Steven must have considered screen time and whatnots, and in spite of them, he still went with JY character because it struck a chord in him and challenged his acting skill. Anyway, imo, JY's male lead status could have been easily ascertained with a revised script to include some sweet flashbacks on Yuen/suet romance, and like you've suggested, some indication of JY's inner struggles when planning the demise of Dou camp etc etc. I wonder if the aired Sits in HK will differ from Astro's in that Yuen/Suet screentime has been added in.
-----Steven's yb entries in Chinese ---
Steven as red rose
Akazukin: And once again awed by Steven's charming demeanour there, how could Sing Suet not fall in love with him?
Tamaya: Reminds me of a Steven fan's Sits article (SM Warm House) whereby she uses blood red rose and white rose to allegorize JY and Hin, respectively.
Inspired by her writing, I came up with my own version.
Jiyuen is a wild, blood red rose. Its blossom, glorious in its unbridled beauty; its fragrance, alluring and enticing. The rose is an entrapment to unsuspecting admirers for its beauty conceals an insidious thorny side. Secured in its superiority, the red rose stands tall and haughty, its beauty for all to see. Over endowed, it becomes self-absorbed, self-centered, and self-willed. Suet, never one for flowers, was inexplicably drawn to such sublimity; its exotic beauty awakens in her a full blown passion. She seeks to posses the red rose, and in her naivety, pricks her fingers on its thorns drawing instant blood, and inflicting immeasurable and irrevocable hurt. In return, the red rose is bruised and transformed by her touch. Once bitten twice shy, Suet is now forever changed; her innocence destroyed, her family destroyed, her past destroyed, her life as she knew it, all destroyed. A different kind of passion now burns deep within her heart, where love used to reside, hatred now reigns supreme. However, as time passes, the passion scale of hatred and love mixture slowly but inevitably once again tips towards love. For indeed, the ardent of the red rose cannot be denied.
Hin is a white rose inside a vase. Its beauty, pure and understated. Its fragrance, mild and pleasing. It is tranquil and serene as it stays prop up inside its vase, content to just light up its surrounding with pure beauty and to impart its mild aroma to its appreciators.
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The response to the rose allegory from another Steven fan:
To say JY is a blood red rose, might as well say
he is a warm and gentle poison
once taken, the pain is immeasurable
and the poison, irremovable.
and as for Er Shao as a white rose, might as well say
he is like the moonbeam shining on one's bed
cool and clear, its ray of light bringing warmth
to the darkness surrounding oneself.
who could bear to let go of the moonbeam
that brings warmth to oneself?
**********************
Akazukin: I would rather Suet travelling on her own in spring season and then she stopped when she saw a field of chrysanthemums, before a firefly flew to her and she followed it shortly before she saw Ji Yuen who has been petrified looking at her. And all their reactions remain the same. At least the scene won't throw me off from its unrealisticness.
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Tamaya: I prefer your field of mums to snowland for ending. But in my neck of the woods, fireflies only appear during summer time and travel in swarms rather than solitarily. And they are most visible at night because of their glow. But of course, these are the American fireflies, don’t know about China’s own particular type.
How about this: Dusk. On the way to no-where or half-where or
some-where, Suet happens upon a field of wild, yellow daisies lighted up
by a swarm of hovering, sparkling fireflies. One detaches itself and
flies towards her, stops and dances before her eyes. It then flits away,
purposefully. Suet follows, certain it is Hin’s spirit leading her to a
warm shelter for the night. Even as she approaches the safe haven of a
cave, a familiar aroma wafts towards her, instantly evoking warm
memories of the past: spuds roasting over open fire, hmm yum yum!
Stomach rumbling, she hurries expectantly and nervously into the cave,
following the light emanating from inside. Voila! Surprise! Surprise!
two pairs of eyes widening with surprise, with hope, and with love; eyes
met, locked and tear-up. Time stands still. Yuen opens wide his arms
and Suet stumbles dazedly into them. Embraced. Then they partake the
roasted spuds that JY has so thoughtfully roasted for two. The end!Akazukin
The reason why I mentioned spring rather than summer is because it left a bit of surreal feeling while it is not too far-fetched and impossible like fireflies in winter/snow. It could be the end of spring and towards the beginning of summer. Dusk sounds reasonable, although I would prefer to have just one firefly instead of many. So that too many fireflies won't take the attention off the flowers (LOL, I'm selfish). And OMG, how much I love them to hug! I remembered saying that what's missing in the ending was a hug when I first finished the ending. I think a hug would give a complete closure to the series. But I get that TVB wants an open ending, so that Hin's fanatics won't be too pissed off or those that oppose the idea of marrying someone who 'killed' your parents won't be too pissed off too. I guess that's why they left off the hug. May I know why Yuen was roasting for two though?
Akazukin:
Wow, comparing roses to males is quite new and original to me. However, the description seems fitting. I have always preferred red rose to white rose, although I do like both (applies to both the flowers and to the characters). I'm reminded that Yuen's thorn didn't only prick Suet but also Ting Yin's. The other day rewatching SITS, I was once again impressed by Steven, and this time I would want to talk about the scene where he first met Minister Yiu. Yuen and his godfather were just passing shadows until Minister Yiu called To, but somehow, you do feel these two passing shadows are different from the rest. There is something with the way Steven walked and his posture that gives off the vibes that he is not just normal average citizen. I feel that all over SITS, he did give off this vibe that he is from a military background and I applaud him for that. Such little thing, such little scene, but it makes difference.
After reading someone said that Steven was supposed to play the role of Hin, I start wondering whether I would have preffered Yuen or Hin if Steven acted as Hin instead. And after imagining how Steven would act as Hin, I think I would still go for Stevia. I realised that the large part of the reason why I love Yuen-Suet so much is because of their chemistry, and when it comes to chemistry, it takes two keys to make noise. Even if Yuen was acted by someone of awesome acting skill like Wayne, and he does a great job in the role. He might not have the same chemistry level with Tavia. As the case with Raymond Wong. Raymond did a great job as Hin, but his chemistry with Tavia just can't beat that of Stevia, where they can communicate just through eye contacts, or the feeling that they are connected even when they were just walking together side by side.
Maybe I would have loved Hin even more if Steven took the role (not saying RayW didn't do a good job, he did a great job, just that I think I would prefer Steven), but if I'm to be asked whether I prefer Steven as Yuen or Hin. I prefer him as Yuen. I just love the masculinity of Yuen, someone who is usually cool (even with his friends, let alone strangers), can be so passionate when falling in love is just full score attraction. I like the fact that Yuen is a righteous and good person and overall nice, but he is not downright useless nice, like how he didn't bother to let way for Ting Yin when she tried to embarrass him. But if Steven took the role of Hin, I would imagine he would add more masculine blood to the character, while Raymond Wong's Hin is more gentle overall.
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Tamaya: His original words in the spoiler. It could be interpreted either way. That he accepted to act in Sits as JY, or that he chose JY over Hin as his choice of character to act. Read in context with his whole entry, I think it was probably the latter. I recall a news report saying how Hin character was tailor made to salvage a misbehaving tvb artiste's reputation and jump start his career - something like that. But I guess the character was further polished after Steven had rejected that role. As an artiste, Steven must have considered screen time and whatnots, and in spite of them, he still went with JY character because it struck a chord in him and challenged his acting skill. Anyway, imo, JY's male lead status could have been easily ascertained with a revised script to include some sweet flashbacks on Yuen/suet romance, and like you've suggested, some indication of JY's inner struggles when planning the demise of Dou camp etc etc. I wonder if the aired Sits in HK will differ from Astro's in that Yuen/Suet screentime has been added in.
-----Steven's yb entries in Chinese ---
sm baidu on Sweetness in the Salt
终于把《碧血》看完了。长篇大论有待整理,说点小感想先。
前面的剧情发展非常之纠结,但最后的结局令人大爱,虽然没有点明,但总是有柳暗花明的苗头,有爱有希望,很好! 如果说看前面还觉得不甚入戏,那么看最后一集彻底被俘虏了,被致远的眼神、表情俘虏了。
当婚礼上致远看到三叔时,眼神中那种惶恐、震惊、不知所措表露无疑。太爱,所以怕失去,于是用一个又一个谎言与欺瞒来换取洞房花烛的一刻。但是,毕竟是致远,正直的天性令他无法不正视对自己的谴责。那一刻,一向强势、胜券在握的他变得那样脆弱而挣扎。赞!跨进洞房的那一刻致远已经收起了自己的凌乱,三叔的出现与其说是一场闹剧,不如说在致远的内心中狠狠的拉了他一把——三叔真是个大菩萨。于是,他平静的走进洞房,平静的说出真相。因为了解自己,了解胜雪,所以他知道,与其背着一道枷锁做一个不开心的新郎,维护一段不知道什么时候会因为真相大 白而崩塌的婚姻,不如把彼此从这个纠缠中放出来。致远把选择的权利交给了胜雪,于是,胜雪走了【打倒后妈编剧!!】。面对二叔和娘,致远含泪无奈的笑了, 笑中有失去爱人的悲伤。看着月光,致远又微微笑了,这一次,却隐隐的有面对与放下的释怀。微微翘唇后他的面上又换上了致远式的表情,从此,两个人之间,便是清白的了,再没有什么,可以阻止自己重新追寻胜雪的脚步。这一笑一笑一凝神啊,赞! 最后最后,要大赞一个的就是,结尾处胡子大叔造型太令人惊艳啦啊啊啊啊啊啊啊~~~~现在想起来还是忍不住内心中的雀跃啊~~~~受不了这种成熟的气质造型啊。。。大爱!赞!!!!!
或许从一开始就已经预见着致远和盛雪的未来。这辈子或许就是命中注定的有缘无份，无论多相爱，都永远不可能在一起，我真的不知道胜雪她到底是幸运还是不幸。真的好矛盾，我知道亭轩真的对胜雪很好，但是胜雪她最爱的始终都是当初那个害的她家破人亡的聂致远。虽然我真的好希望他们可以在一起，可同时我也知道这有多难，因为如果换做是我的话，我根本不可能原谅致远的种种行为。从一开始你就是带着目的地在接近胜雪，就连和胜雪在一起的时候都是以剿灭盐枭为最终目的。甚至让胜雪把最后的秘道都说了出来，当盐枭被人剿灭的那一刻，在那生死关头胜雪她惟一担心的就是那个她自认为完全不会武功的聂致远。她根本不会知道这个眼前她深爱人就是亲手摧毁她所有幸福的人。
再见时已是仇深似海，其实我一直都没有办法了解致远到底是抱着一种怎样的心态在过活，当他再遇胜雪时，他已是害死她亲人的凶手，可是在他心里他仍然认为贩卖私盐是罪无可赦，那个时候的致远就连内疚都不让我能感受到有多少，可是在胡府当他拒绝胡家四小姐的亲事，当他告诉所有的人他心中已有了意中人，只能叹一句天意弄人时，我却没有办法不感动，不为致远难过，我的眼泪只为站在一旁的胜雪而落，他明明很清楚自己对胜雪所作所为作的是无论如何都不能让人原谅的，如果说当众表白是情不自禁，那么在后院你为什么又要拉住她，为什么要告诉她你所说的全都是肺腑之言呢！你知道这样对胜雪有多残忍嘛！她是那样深爱着你，可是却不得不放弃。但我就是没有办法恨你，没有办法将胜雪交到亭轩的手里，尤其当我看到你知道了事情的真相，知道当初让你牺牲放弃了自己的感情而所做的一切原来都是错的时候，你自责、你内疚，你用酒精来麻痹你自己，你知道那个时候我有多心痛嘛，应该说你是自食其果吗？但如果你不是那么正直，也就不必那么痛苦了。
当你感染到瘟疫，硬是把胜雪从你身边推开时，隔着那道门你对胜雪说："其实我最想看到你得到幸福，我对你的伤害实在是太大了，大到就算拿走我这条命都没有办法可以弥补的到，自从我知道剿灭蔻家寨是一件错事开始，我就一直都没开心过，因为我知道我已经失去了我最珍贵和对我最重要的．．．．．"． 我看到你的眼泪，看到你比任何人都痛，那种痛甚至是超越胜雪的，当红斑褪去，平安之时，你们紧紧相拥，那是属于你们最真切的时刻，可是看到番薯，想起二少，胜雪报恩的心态又出现了，在她最困难的时候是亭轩一直在她的身边帮助她，她推开了致远，那一刻似乎大家心里都明白已经再也不可能走到一起了，有时候好希望胜雪可以自私一点，可她偏偏是那种先为别人想的人，说她同时爱上两个人，可我却不这么认为，我知道她由始至终爱的都只有致远一个，不然，当她决定嫁给二少的时候就不会那么难过了，真的是从来没有看到过一个快要成亲的新娘会好象她那么不开心的，可就算这样，她还是以大局为重，就算致远终于肯不顾一切的要带她走时，她的选择仍然是留下，因为她知道她不能那么自私，为了胡家上上下下，牺牲自己一个又算得了什么呢！
真的很不明白编剧是怎么样想的，就非喜欢折磨人，其实要胜雪和致远在一起，也不一定非要牺牲二少啊，这两年ＴＶＢ的编剧真的越来越不行了。好吧，既然要那么做就别再折腾他们了嘛！干吗要最后再冒出个三叔来呢！真的是一点意义都没有啊！致远说过当初他真的想不出任何一个理由，要为了一个盐枭而牺牲自己，其实理由很简单，不用为别的，只因为他是胜雪最亲的人就应该足够了， 那么难道是他爱胜雪不够深吗？
( disagree with her: a person's self- preservation is naturally at the utmost in time of peril, nothing to do with his love for Suet) 如果真的爱的不够深，那么到最后就不会因为太爱她，而不忍心欺骗她啊！都不觉得这样写很有问题啊！最后一个镜头胜雪跟着荧火虫走进了山洞重遇了致远，个人还满喜欢这个镜头的，很让我感动啊。那一刻两人似乎只能彼此望着对方落泪，却什么都做不到，这不禁让我想起了蔻老大说的那句话：胜雪，就算只剩下你一个人，也要坚强的活下去，知道吗？我相信胜雪她已经做到了。
原来不知不觉已经写了那么多了，似乎马仔和小怡每次合作最后都不能终成眷属，之前的《汇通天下》还要惨，眼睁睁看着自己心爱的人嫁作人妇，最后还落的个难产而死的下场，现在的《碧血盐枭》也不能算好的到哪里去，开始期待你们的《占星情缘》，希望可以有个真真正正的大团员结局。 source: sm baidu link
前面的剧情发展非常之纠结,但最后的结局令人大爱,虽然没有点明,但总是有柳暗花明的苗头,有爱有希望,很好! 如果说看前面还觉得不甚入戏,那么看最后一集彻底被俘虏了,被致远的眼神、表情俘虏了。
当婚礼上致远看到三叔时,眼神中那种惶恐、震惊、不知所措表露无疑。太爱,所以怕失去,于是用一个又一个谎言与欺瞒来换取洞房花烛的一刻。但是,毕竟是致远,正直的天性令他无法不正视对自己的谴责。那一刻,一向强势、胜券在握的他变得那样脆弱而挣扎。赞!跨进洞房的那一刻致远已经收起了自己的凌乱,三叔的出现与其说是一场闹剧,不如说在致远的内心中狠狠的拉了他一把——三叔真是个大菩萨。于是,他平静的走进洞房,平静的说出真相。因为了解自己,了解胜雪,所以他知道,与其背着一道枷锁做一个不开心的新郎,维护一段不知道什么时候会因为真相大 白而崩塌的婚姻,不如把彼此从这个纠缠中放出来。致远把选择的权利交给了胜雪,于是,胜雪走了【打倒后妈编剧!!】。面对二叔和娘,致远含泪无奈的笑了, 笑中有失去爱人的悲伤。看着月光,致远又微微笑了,这一次,却隐隐的有面对与放下的释怀。微微翘唇后他的面上又换上了致远式的表情,从此,两个人之间,便是清白的了,再没有什么,可以阻止自己重新追寻胜雪的脚步。这一笑一笑一凝神啊,赞! 最后最后,要大赞一个的就是,结尾处胡子大叔造型太令人惊艳啦啊啊啊啊啊啊啊~~~~现在想起来还是忍不住内心中的雀跃啊~~~~受不了这种成熟的气质造型啊。。。大爱!赞!!!!!
或许从一开始就已经预见着致远和盛雪的未来。这辈子或许就是命中注定的有缘无份，无论多相爱，都永远不可能在一起，我真的不知道胜雪她到底是幸运还是不幸。真的好矛盾，我知道亭轩真的对胜雪很好，但是胜雪她最爱的始终都是当初那个害的她家破人亡的聂致远。虽然我真的好希望他们可以在一起，可同时我也知道这有多难，因为如果换做是我的话，我根本不可能原谅致远的种种行为。从一开始你就是带着目的地在接近胜雪，就连和胜雪在一起的时候都是以剿灭盐枭为最终目的。甚至让胜雪把最后的秘道都说了出来，当盐枭被人剿灭的那一刻，在那生死关头胜雪她惟一担心的就是那个她自认为完全不会武功的聂致远。她根本不会知道这个眼前她深爱人就是亲手摧毁她所有幸福的人。
再见时已是仇深似海，其实我一直都没有办法了解致远到底是抱着一种怎样的心态在过活，当他再遇胜雪时，他已是害死她亲人的凶手，可是在他心里他仍然认为贩卖私盐是罪无可赦，那个时候的致远就连内疚都不让我能感受到有多少，可是在胡府当他拒绝胡家四小姐的亲事，当他告诉所有的人他心中已有了意中人，只能叹一句天意弄人时，我却没有办法不感动，不为致远难过，我的眼泪只为站在一旁的胜雪而落，他明明很清楚自己对胜雪所作所为作的是无论如何都不能让人原谅的，如果说当众表白是情不自禁，那么在后院你为什么又要拉住她，为什么要告诉她你所说的全都是肺腑之言呢！你知道这样对胜雪有多残忍嘛！她是那样深爱着你，可是却不得不放弃。但我就是没有办法恨你，没有办法将胜雪交到亭轩的手里，尤其当我看到你知道了事情的真相，知道当初让你牺牲放弃了自己的感情而所做的一切原来都是错的时候，你自责、你内疚，你用酒精来麻痹你自己，你知道那个时候我有多心痛嘛，应该说你是自食其果吗？但如果你不是那么正直，也就不必那么痛苦了。
当你感染到瘟疫，硬是把胜雪从你身边推开时，隔着那道门你对胜雪说："其实我最想看到你得到幸福，我对你的伤害实在是太大了，大到就算拿走我这条命都没有办法可以弥补的到，自从我知道剿灭蔻家寨是一件错事开始，我就一直都没开心过，因为我知道我已经失去了我最珍贵和对我最重要的．．．．．"． 我看到你的眼泪，看到你比任何人都痛，那种痛甚至是超越胜雪的，当红斑褪去，平安之时，你们紧紧相拥，那是属于你们最真切的时刻，可是看到番薯，想起二少，胜雪报恩的心态又出现了，在她最困难的时候是亭轩一直在她的身边帮助她，她推开了致远，那一刻似乎大家心里都明白已经再也不可能走到一起了，有时候好希望胜雪可以自私一点，可她偏偏是那种先为别人想的人，说她同时爱上两个人，可我却不这么认为，我知道她由始至终爱的都只有致远一个，不然，当她决定嫁给二少的时候就不会那么难过了，真的是从来没有看到过一个快要成亲的新娘会好象她那么不开心的，可就算这样，她还是以大局为重，就算致远终于肯不顾一切的要带她走时，她的选择仍然是留下，因为她知道她不能那么自私，为了胡家上上下下，牺牲自己一个又算得了什么呢！
真的很不明白编剧是怎么样想的，就非喜欢折磨人，其实要胜雪和致远在一起，也不一定非要牺牲二少啊，这两年ＴＶＢ的编剧真的越来越不行了。好吧，既然要那么做就别再折腾他们了嘛！干吗要最后再冒出个三叔来呢！真的是一点意义都没有啊！致远说过当初他真的想不出任何一个理由，要为了一个盐枭而牺牲自己，其实理由很简单，不用为别的，只因为他是胜雪最亲的人就应该足够了， 那么难道是他爱胜雪不够深吗？
( disagree with her: a person's self- preservation is naturally at the utmost in time of peril, nothing to do with his love for Suet) 如果真的爱的不够深，那么到最后就不会因为太爱她，而不忍心欺骗她啊！都不觉得这样写很有问题啊！最后一个镜头胜雪跟着荧火虫走进了山洞重遇了致远，个人还满喜欢这个镜头的，很让我感动啊。那一刻两人似乎只能彼此望着对方落泪，却什么都做不到，这不禁让我想起了蔻老大说的那句话：胜雪，就算只剩下你一个人，也要坚强的活下去，知道吗？我相信胜雪她已经做到了。
原来不知不觉已经写了那么多了，似乎马仔和小怡每次合作最后都不能终成眷属，之前的《汇通天下》还要惨，眼睁睁看着自己心爱的人嫁作人妇，最后还落的个难产而死的下场，现在的《碧血盐枭》也不能算好的到哪里去，开始期待你们的《占星情缘》，希望可以有个真真正正的大团员结局。 source: sm baidu link
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Steven Ma Wants to Get Married
Tuesday September 1, 2009 Hong Kong
Credits: to hyn5 @ http://hyn5-hyn5.blogspot.com
Steven Ma has been busy filming new series "Transferred Connection of Temptation", and the other day, he filmed a wedding scene with Fala Chen. The couple will have a happy ending in the series. Steven and Fala have filmed many series together, and the two are quite good friends. When Fala was picking out the wedding dress, Steven was serious in giving his opinion. Fala expressed that she really likes working with Steven because he can bring her positive energy when working together. Even if it is hard work, Steven will take a deep breath and say, "Let's go!" and they will continue to strive for success. When Steven is tired and all worn out, he will not speak, but he will definitely not make a scene. Fala really admires Steven for having a good heart, and he is willing to tell his partner the truth; therefore, she has a lot of trust for Steven.
Fala also said that during this cooperation, she discovered that Steven is a person who really wants to get married. "Whenever there are kids filming on scene, he would change himself into a father figure, and treat them with love. He will definitely make a good husband and good father". When asked if she or Steven will marry first, Fala believes Steven will marry first. But Steven did not agree, but expressed that he does want to have a family with a happy marriage. It is his biggest wish. Steven had always wanted to marry before the age of thirty. He also hopes to become a father, and when he gets married, he hopes to have kids right away.
Credits: to hyn5 @ http://hyn5-hyn5.blogspot.com
Steven Ma has been busy filming new series "Transferred Connection of Temptation", and the other day, he filmed a wedding scene with Fala Chen. The couple will have a happy ending in the series. Steven and Fala have filmed many series together, and the two are quite good friends. When Fala was picking out the wedding dress, Steven was serious in giving his opinion. Fala expressed that she really likes working with Steven because he can bring her positive energy when working together. Even if it is hard work, Steven will take a deep breath and say, "Let's go!" and they will continue to strive for success. When Steven is tired and all worn out, he will not speak, but he will definitely not make a scene. Fala really admires Steven for having a good heart, and he is willing to tell his partner the truth; therefore, she has a lot of trust for Steven.
Fala also said that during this cooperation, she discovered that Steven is a person who really wants to get married. "Whenever there are kids filming on scene, he would change himself into a father figure, and treat them with love. He will definitely make a good husband and good father". When asked if she or Steven will marry first, Fala believes Steven will marry first. But Steven did not agree, but expressed that he does want to have a family with a happy marriage. It is his biggest wish. Steven had always wanted to marry before the age of thirty. He also hopes to become a father, and when he gets married, he hopes to have kids right away.
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